Arnie Klein TMZ comments discussion

[Tink]

Originally Posted by OffTheP!NkWall

Well love, please rest assured that GOD is real and he see whats going on...

Romans 12:19 Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord.

So, don't you cry over this stuff no Mo'... okay!

Great scripture! Yes, they may get away with it with men but God sees all and He will take care of it.

[AliCat]

No doubt about it, Dr. Arnold Klein is arrogant, too much flattering of once self. But, too much finger pointing at everyone and anyone, other than himself.

The plastic surgeon is a bad guy, Katherine Jackson is greedy, Joseph Jackson introduced Dr. Conrad Murray to Michael Jackson. LaToya must've taken all the money that Michael kept in the house, like a financial institution, since Michael didn't carry credit cards. So none of the staff thought about robbing the place, if $5 M is just sitting around? Michael's brother's I guess are bums, freeloader's. Now I see why Michael had a $500 M loan outstanding. Must not forget AEG. AEG is at fault, because even though Michael talked Randy Phillips into hiring Dr. Conrad Murray, it's AEG's fault because they hired Dr. Conrad Murray. Although it is Joseph Jackson's fault, because Joseph Jackson introduced Dr. Conrad Murray to his son, Michael Jackson.

Dr. Arnold Klein kept talking out of both sides of his mouth. What was up about the intervention. Michael was preparing a $35 M production of concert's and Michael was coming down to the wire to get them ready and now 2 day's before Michael died, was going to be a drug intervention, because somebody was going to tell Michael to stop getting sleep on Propofol? The timing makes no sense at all.

Too much information coming at you all at once. Grace, the nanny was in the house, no, she's in switzerland, she was fired, she was rehired. I'm lost. Although, why would Michael's employee have so much power or at least why did Dr. Arnold Klein throw her name into the mix?

So Dr. Arnold Klein was motivated to keep his practice going and as Michael's friend, he 'claims' Michael was addicted to Propofol, which constitutes Michael a drug addict and this was his drug of choice. Michael began his addiction with Propofol with Dr. Steven Hoefflin. So then Michael has continued this use of Propofol for more than 2 decades, non-stop? And Michael's best friend, Dr. Arnold Klein, was never confided in about that? Although, Dr. Arnold Klein did say that in 2003, Michael and him did not see each other after that, even though Michael called Dr. Arnold Klein once in 2005. Then meeting again in 2008, a year ago, is when Dr. Arnold Klein was reunited. I guess that makes them kindred spirits, always together in spirit, that's what good friend's are, always together in spirits. It was a business friendship though, which is why Michael was lonely. Michael wanted a friend that wasn't based on business money. Dr. Arnold Klein did make a point about how Katherine should have taken the kid's and left Joseph, since Katherine didn't intervene. Even Dr. Arnold Klein's mother went on welfare, when Dr. Arnold Klein's dad died.

It is interesting what money does to people when they don't want to lose their standard of living, watching those who were associated with Michael when he was alive. All the finger pointing going on is like weeding a garden. Us fan's just got to keep weeding the beautiful garden that was Michael Jackson. Even if your head wants to split. Ouch!

Liked Dr. Arnold Klein's real estate snafu, when in 1974, he bought his 18,000 square foot home for $395,000. No wonder people have invested in real estate, they want their piece of the pie, like Dr. Arnold Klein. Actually, if you had money in 1974, anyone could've made a killing in real estate. The economy had plummeted real estate prices and homes were selling cheap. In 1978, in California, a homeowner tax law got passed, Propostion 13, and your homeowner taxes could not be raised. No wonder Dr. Arnold Klein is loaded.

[ensleyave]

Originally Posted by ivygivy

Oooh ok ok ok, I get what you were saying. Well, since this is how Klein talked on Larry King, I don't imagine the TMZ staff would assume his behavior today was worthy of censoring. Not to mention it was live, so the staff had to process the information at the same time.

Whether he was sober or not, Klein just doesn't seem to have much self-awareness.




Yes, they stalk. Yes, they put their spin on it, as in a little shot at the celebrity in a caption or something. But could you please give me an example of where they lied? They usually go to great lengths to say "THIS IS WHAT OUR SOURCES SAY." They are presenting information given to them to the public. Clearly, between Michael's family and "friends", there is no shortage of loose-mouths ready to fire off at any moment.


I don't know why I'm all defensive of TMZ. haha. I'll try to stop now because it's kind of pointless.

I don't know how anyone defends them. Maybe you need to listen to Tabloid Junkie. Not trying to offend you, but the person we say we are their fan despised tabloids and here some of us defend tabloids. I am confused.

[Cerisa]

Originally Posted by ensleyave

I don't know how anyone defends them. Maybe you need to listen to Tabloid Junkie. Not trying to offend you, but the person we say we are their fan despised tabloids and here some of us defend tabloids. I am confused.

I cannot fathom why anyone, especially Michael Jackson fans who should know better, would defend TMZ either. To each their own, I guess.

[RockWithYou09]

I've just watch the whole Arnie spill... What to think of it? I thought he came up with a lot of self-contradictions ie. he was a "very close friend" of Michaels, but there were very long periods ie. during the trials when he was not in communication with MJ. What kind of "close friend" is he then? Another point that bugged me, was that he said that Katherine was greedy. Michael supported his mother, and she is now taking care of his kids. Whatever her demands are of the estate on behalf of herself and the children i is their own personal business and entitlement. Also, no amount of money can be provided to them to make up for the great loss they have had to endure. So please Arnie, don't even go there.

Anyway, there are lot of people coming out of the wood works post MJ's passing, who have a lot to say, as they themselves have been scrutinised and harrassed by the media. So I guess, they have the right to try and defend themselves in their own words. But as a MJ fan, we should all take things said by a lot of these people with a grain of salt. Everyone will have the "truth" to speak about, as it is their own personal opinion. But for us fans who have to connect the dots... well, let's pray that our own commonsense prevails so we don't get led astray, and end up getting drawn into the fantasy-scapes (real world? lol) that are put out there.

[MJfan64]

I am not impressed with the interview. It's pretty obvious that Dr. Klein did that to try to shed a better light upon himself. But I think it backfired. Too many inconsistencies. For instance, he mentioned that Michael didn't like to use the washroom in fear that people would recognize him in the hallway-so he decided to pee in a cup. Yet, he says Michael would go and dance and sing to the waiting patients. Pretty contradictory, don't you think? Klein said he doesn't like children, yet he wanted to go to court so that a DNA test could be done to prove paternity. The inconsistencies go on and on and on...

Something is very fishy about that man. He's been extremely disrespectful to someone he considered his best friend. Michael is gone, he cannot defend himself. But we know the truth.

P.S.: This pee-in-a-cup in front of other people (especially children) story, this is the first time I've ever heard of it. Klein made it up, Michael would have NEVER done that. Even friends of mine who are not his fans don't buy it either. And it's not that I think Michael was a saint. But he was way too shy for that. And he had morals.

[renee]

Originally Posted by ZooS

Klein was accused in The Sun newspaper of several things by Dr. Hoefflin, the same doctor who claimed he was speaking on behalf of Katherine Jackson, only Katherine's lawyer issued a statement the next day saying that Hoefflin does not speak on her behalf and that only her lawyer could do so. The estate also took the step of issuing a statement saying that Hoefflin was not authorized to speak for them either. Dr Klein is suing Dr Hoefflin for libel and slander for the interview he (Hoefflin) gave to The Sun.

Klein is not a celebrity, he is a doctor, therefore he clearly doesn't know how to play the media. He does however have a right to reply to what's been said about him.

I saw the interview and I didn't think Klein looked drunk or 'out of it'. I thought he looked like a man who was angry and upset about what's been said about him. I think there's much more here than meets the eye.

I am very baffled as to why you are so partial to Klein in not giving him the same level of scrutiny that you give Grace and Joe, for example. There was no reason for him to talk to Harvey Levin about MJ liking to pee in a cup, at times in front of children. I don't think it helps defend your friend accused of m.olestation to share that he did expose himself but it was while peeing so that makes it okay and that's how the boy was able to identify him.

I will not even get into this story likely being a lie.

Furthermore, there was no need for Klein to repeat the story while being interviewed live. He could have politely backed away from his comments. He is dragging his "friend's" name through the mud and I find lying/sharing your friend was exposing himself to kids FAR more repulsive than Joe filing a creditor's claim against the estate. The latter just makes Joe look bad; the former casts aspersion on MJ.

This is an escalating pattern of behavior from Klein that embarasses MJ. First, he was fueling rumors he could have been the bio kids. Then, there was the Heal the Skin stunt (and when was MJ's doctor-patient confidentiality waived?). Then there was filing a creditor's claim the same day as This Is It (though he asserts the people running his business did this w/o his knowledge). And finally, the pee in the cup story.

At some point, I think this needs to include Klein:

Originally Posted by ZooS

Okay now if this is true - I don't want to hear another person saying 'Lay off Joe Jackson' - because to you I'd say 'no chance in HELL!'

Disgusting.

And he was under the influence of something while he was on TMZ, even if he wasn't totally wasted. He was not as sharp as he was on Larry King.

[northrancher]

I watched all 90-plus minutes of the interview TMZ did with Dr. Klein recently & was so disturbed by what I heard.

Talk about betrayal to Michael Jackson. It's shocking really. I know Klein is trying to save himself and his dermatology practice, but if he did nothing wrong, he has no reason for this media blitz where he airs his dirty laundry and divulges intimate details and opinions about his "dear friend" Michael. In fact, he would be better served to keep quiet. Say nothing. Preserve whatever dignity he has left.

Among all the startling comments he makes, he also says that he continues to have the strong support of Elizabeth Taylor. Seriously? I noticed she dropped him from her Twitter account (if that's any indication) right after he did the first Larry King interview. I doubt that ET is supporting this guy any longer. (Does anyone here know for sure?) Klein is truly pathetic.

If you can stomach it, here's the interview:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=t...b-c372fc8c0d52

[renee]

There is already a thread on this in Tabloid Junkie:

http://www.mjfanclub.net/mjforum373/...ad.php?t=20280

[northrancher]

Originally Posted by renee

There is already a thread on this in Tabloid Junkie:

http://www.mjfanclub.net/mjforum373/...ad.php?t=20280

Thanks, Renee -- you can tell I'm a newbie!